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Old Fat Sailor said in July 9th, 2008 at 12:49 pm

Ya hit this one out of the park! A suggestion for a stock substitute: Tolen (sp?) Kosher bullion cubes, one to two cups of water and a scant teaspoon of unflavored geletin is, to my burned out taste buds, better than the stock mixes I have tried. R

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Jacob said in July 10th, 2008 at 5:28 am

OFS-
You claim to be a crusty old sailor but then you start taking about bullion cubes with the addition of unflavored gelatin (no doubt to mimic the body of a well made stock). I have a sneaking suspicion that you’ve seen the inside of a kitchen or two, or at the very least had a childhood full of great food.

Great recommendation on a stock substitute when in a pinch. Welcome to the dark side…

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Old Fat Sailor said in July 10th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

Well….someday I’ll have to tell you how, in my navy days, got sent to peel vegatables for three months due to some disciplinary issues and ended up being the ship’s baker.

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Meca Silkowski said in July 10th, 2008 at 8:04 pm

Thanks for clarifying the correct portion sizes of an entree on the podcast. When you go to some restaurants the portions are so out of control you can’t help but feel a bit overwhelmed by everything they’ve put on your plate. I have a few questions. Can you use Arborio Rice to make rice pudding? If you can, should you use water or milk? Would using Arborio Rice be a good way of giving the pudding a creamy texture without using too much cream?

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Jacob said in July 11th, 2008 at 6:50 am

@Meca
To answer your question, yes, you can use Arborio Rice for rice pudding and the extra starchiness will lend itself nicely to the overall dish. I would use a little water with some fresh vanilla bean and sugar infused in it and then cook the risotto using the techniques outlined in this podcast but omit sweating the shallots at the begining. To make the pudding I would suggest a couple of things:

1) Cook the risotto longer to make it a little more “mushy” then you normally would.
2) Finish with butter, sugar, cinnoman and fruit of your choice (raisins, any sort of berry or dired fruit).

Also, add some milk at the end, but not during the cooking process as it may curdle on you.

You don’t have to add cream, but if your intentions for doing so are lower fat content, you will surely make it up by the addition of butter and sugar in the finishing process. Desserts are meant to be rich, creamy, sweet and fatty; and without these components it will taste like “something is missing.”

@OFS,
I knew you were a trouble maker from the get go. I guess having to serve hundreds of hungry, well armed sailors trapped on a ship for months on end has taught you some pretty cool culinary tricks. I can only imagine what kind of mischief got you a three month stint peeling vegetables…I would love to here the story.

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Big Moose said in July 14th, 2008 at 8:13 pm

What you describe as “mashed potatoes” are really “whipped potatoes” (not fit for consumption in my book). If you didn’t use a “potato masher” how can they be “mashed potatoes”? You even talked about putting the whip on the cuisinart. Other than that *positively egregious error* :-) you’ve got a great podcast. I love it

Big Moose

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Old Fat Sailor said in July 15th, 2008 at 5:04 pm

Could you clarify the distinction between spice and seasoning, always been a bit of confusion to me.

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Jacob said in July 15th, 2008 at 6:25 pm

@Big Moose,
Aren’t we the feisty one? A good ol’ fashioned culinary debate based on kitchen semantics; sign me up! In fact, I loved your comment so much that I’m going to make everyone wait to hear my response on the next podcast, FCS Episode 5. Thanks for your passionate participation.

@OFS,
Seasoning is basically a flavor enhancer that brings out the natural flavors in a dish. Seasonings are usually a part or the four major flavor groups that our tongues tastes; sweet (sugar), salty (salt), sour (vinegar), and bitter (such as how hops improve the flavor of beer).

Spices on the other hand are things like nutmeg, cinnamon, star anise etc, that not only help enhance the flavor of a dish, but can also play a staring role. Where as salt, sugar and vinegar are added as seasonings to the point were they bring out the natural flavor but are not really detected, spices are in your face flavors that add a different taste component to the dish.

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Old Fat Sailor said in July 16th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

That helps, but where does that leave the charred vinegared onion when I make my faux pho ga ( boy try to say that three times fast)?

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Jacob said in July 16th, 2008 at 5:08 pm

OFS,
In the case of Pho Ga, the sour taste of the vinegar is not only a seasoning but a flavor component. Although salt, sugar and vinegar are used as seasonings, they can also be a main flavor component in a dish; especially when talking about Asian Cuisine. Some good examples in which a seasoning becomes a flavoring is salt pork, sweet and sour sauce and gastriques (vinegar and sugar boiled together until they form a syrup).

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caponemang said in July 21st, 2008 at 8:10 am

Hey, some 3-star michelin chefs use bullion cubes! I’ve witnessed it! Don’t nay-say…But, I agree on the salt/pepper thing. I was just thinking about that recently. Honestly, I barely use pepper at all where I work (not my choice, but I agree with it). However, toasted peppercorns is the best smell…this one place I worked, one of the prep guys would be always toasting peppercorns for the dinner shift right when I walked in the door everyday…I always think of that. Good stuff. Oh, and personally, I like a little vino or vermouth in my risotto.

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caponemang said in July 21st, 2008 at 8:11 am

…and it’s pronounced/said, Capone Mang.

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Old Fat Sailor said in July 21st, 2008 at 4:49 pm

I don’t know what Jacob would say, well…yes i do, but anyway, bullion is better than no stock at all, bullion and geletan is better than a cube, le bon soup better than that and fine food stocks best of all. Its whats practical after all; My Rata ain’t real Rata because I can’t grow eggplant fer squat but I can the Hillbilly Trinity (Peppers tomaatos and onions)some garliic.squash/zuchini and thinly sliced new potatos ain’t bad and it is practical

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Jacob said in July 23rd, 2008 at 4:05 pm

@Capone Mang,
Well, I was trying to wait a little longer before introducing the FCS Community to the “Dark Side,” but since you and Old Fat Sailor insist…

Yes, I too have seen Michelin chefs use bullion cubes as well as beef, chicken or lobster base, but the real question is why, when they most likely have 5 gallons of fresh stock in their walk-in? The answer is, most stock bases and bullions cubes contain Monosodium Glutimate (MSG).
The MSG gives whatever they’re making that little extra kick of umami, making there soups and sauces “additively good.”

By the way, vino and vermouth are great additions to risotto. I’ve been known to use a little Pernod when the mood strikes and the flavors call for it.

P.S. Sorry about butchering your fake name.

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Jeff said in July 24th, 2008 at 11:40 pm

I have made risotto the standard way as you described on the podcast. I have also, however, made it in a pressure cooker, and I could not tell the difference in either the texture or the flavor of the finished product. In fact it has been better than I have had in some restaurants. All the usual steps are followed, except once you bring it to pressure, it takes only 7 minutes and no further stirring, until you put in your butter and cheese. Have you ever tried this? Do you see any problem with this method?

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Jacob said in July 25th, 2008 at 7:12 am

Jeff,
I have never tried this method so it’s hard for me to give you a definitive answer on it. My only concern however is that a pressure cooker is able to cook the rice faster because the liquid is able to heat above the boiling point. For me, even a boil is too hot to cook risotto, it needs to be a nice, low simmer that gently coaxes the starchy-creaminess out of the Arborio. 7 minutes just sounds like too short of a time frame for this to happen properly. But like I said, can’t knock it till I try it.

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Jeff said in July 25th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

Thanks for the comment. Being somewhat of a traditionalist, I do prefer using traditional methods. When I am trying to cook a good meal and enjoy the party at the same time, however, I will sometimes use shortcuts that may not be quite as good but still produce good results.

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Old Fat Sailor said in July 27th, 2008 at 3:51 am

Jacob, I had to look up gastriques and darn if I haven’t been making something like that for a few years only I call it blackberry orange crack ( for it addictive properties)jam. It does double duty as a drizzle for pork and salmon.

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Jacob said in July 27th, 2008 at 5:08 am

OFS,

Sounds great…Gastriques are so versitle that you’re really only limited by your own imagination. Another great one is using anything citrus; orange, lemon, lime, yuzu…they can be put on just about anything and people always love them!

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caponemang said in August 5th, 2008 at 6:08 am

I’m an advocate of MSG…In my restaurant(to be), it’s going to be my secret weapon.

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Jacob said in August 6th, 2008 at 7:36 pm

And what a powerful weapon it is. You’re a dangerous man, caponemang…I love it!

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Kent said in August 8th, 2008 at 5:48 am

MSG is no more harmful than table salt itself. If used in a limited quantity, it does not pose a threat to man. Now this does not apply to Cup noodles or Ramen, because these things have such a gregarious amount that you can taste the MSG. The Chinese have always used MSG and it is actually not that big of a deal as it is here. Even Bourdain has claimed to have used MSG in Kitchen Confidential, which is MUST READ for you guys!!

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