Are you using 16″ baguette molds in the video? I’ve done this twice now and it seems that my baguettes are not as fat as they should be. I’m wondering if I am making the loaves too long.
Also, my loaves look pretty uniform until I put them on the baguette mold after the final rest. Then then look like they came out of a play-dough machine ran by a monkey. Can I put my bread on the baguette mold to do the pre-shape proof as well as the final proof?
Lastly, is there any way to (practically) practice slashing the baguette loaf? I had it all planned in my head how it should look — but my single edge razor sort of dragged through the loaf instead of slashing it. Results poor. 20 hours of prep time to lead up to the slash and I blow it!
I’m using a 14″ baguette mold. If your baguettes aren’t as fat as you would like, let them proof longer in the baguette mold. That should do the trick. You can also increase the steaming time a little bit, but I think a longer proof is what you’re looking for (maybe your kitchen is a little cold now that its winter time).
Is it ok to half the recipe and only make 2 at a time? I am single, so more than two will likely go stale before I can use them and I can only use so many bread crumbs.
Very good video !! I did this without a mold and substituted a small amount of whole wheat flour. It came out very good the shape wasn’t that nice. It is hard to find these baguette molds.
Bread freezes great. Wrap it tightly in foil and freeze. When ready to eat, throw in a 350 degree oven for about 15 minutes or so (times and temps will vary). You can then remove the foil, and place back in the oven to crisp up the crust.
@Troy,
The crust and crumb are much more important then the shape. I’ve had a couple people complain that these molds are hard to find. My local kitchen store stalks them so I never ran into this problem. I’m going to do some research and see if I can find a good online resource.
Searching the web for Baguette Pans is more productive than baguette molds. {mold is a vague term}. An Amazon search produces 44 results for Baguette Pan(s) See: http://tinyurl.com/yzhr3xo
I got mine at Sir La Table. I paid about 10$ too much for it but had a gift card to spend.
Thanks Jacob. I am also Maveric2009 on Twitter, so thank you for the answer about the bagguette pans as well. The pans you suggested, see below, are 15″, but I got them anyway. However, even though the price is $9.99, there was a whopping $10+ shipping charge on them. I contacted the vendor and got them from its site (www.bakedeco.com) for $7.95, but the cheapest shipping was still $9+. I e-mailed and they are going to ship them via USPS to me for $5.98.
Man, I must be motivated to make these baguettes.
@Homecook, the search you refer to still doesn’t result in the 14″ dual furrow pans. I just can’t find them anywhere, but I think the 15″ ones are close.
@Ric,
Ah, I didn’t read closely enough to see you were looking for 14″ pans. I have a 16″ pan for 3 loaves and it fits into a 2″ hotel pan just fine. 9$ is pretty cheap, I think I paid about 30$ at SLT.
Thanks Ric and HomeCook for the links and suggestions! Bottom line, as long as your baguette pan/mold fits into a hotel pan, all is good. A standard hotel pan measures a little more than 20″ X 12″. As long as you find a baguette pan that will fit into these dimensions, this technique will work for you.
Jacob to Troy: The crust and crumb are much more important then the shape. I’ve had a couple people complain that these molds are hard to find. My local kitchen store stalks them so I never ran into this problem. I’m going to do some research and see if I can find a good online resource.
Starkman: Stalks, eh! “Sloooowly I crept, foot by foot, inch by inch, when suddenly, the mold saw me and gasped, “Ruuuuun!” ”
I have a question on browning. My crust is turning out awesome and crispy however the loaf looks really pale. Is there something I can do to increase browning?
Thanks
Greg
Well… I tried to make the baguettes yesterday and started them Saturday night. On Sunday morning, the dough ball had not raised. The yeast was fresh and doesn’t expire until 2011.
They never rose after wards through all the steps.
They came out dense but had great flavor and beautiful crunchy crust.
I don’t know what I could have done differently.
Maybe you should just keep in in the oven a bit longer? Did you happen to take the temp of the bread when you pulled it out? It should have been between 200-210F. Is it possible your oven temp isn’t what you think it is? You might want to get a separate oven thermometer to check the accuracy of your oven.
@spinblue,
Did you use active dry yeast or instant yeast? If using active dry yeast, sometimes you have to wake them up by blooming the yeast in warm (not hot) water.
Also, if the ambient temperature is low in your home (below 70F), the bread might not show much initial rise — but it should have provided some spring. If the bread did spring but was dense it may have been under proofed before you put it in the oven. This is consistent with what you described in terms of not raising.
If this happens again, you can try this — turn your oven on for 1 minute (temperature doesn’t matter) then shut it off and put your bread in there during the bulk fermentation. The slightly elevated temp of your oven’s box should prove to be a favorable environment to give your bread a jump start on rising. Alternatively, you can continue to just let it rise until it gets to the proper stage — maybe it just takes a bit longer to rise because of the room temp?
Surprisingly, I had the same yeast Jacob mentioned, Red Star Active Dry, expires Feb. 2011. I’ve never made bread where I didn’t bloom the yeast first, not that I’ve made a lot of bread. I’ve never put dough in the refrigerator to rest over night and that’s where I didn’t get any rise from the dough. So the house temp would be immaterial I would think.
Like HomeCook said, try baking it for a little longer. Also, raise your oven temperature just a bit during the second half of baking, right after you take the foil off. This should do the trick.
@ Spinblue,
If you leave it in your fridge for 12 hours it should rise just as shown in the video. If it doesn’t rise, then its most likely a yeast issue. Next time, let the bread sit out at room temperature for an hour before putting in the fridge. If you don’t see any activity, you probably just got a bad batch of yeast. It’s very rare, but it will happen occasionally.
Give it another shot and let me know how it turns out.
Well… the yeast doesn’t appear to have been bad. I made a different bread to test it and it rose. I’m using the little 7g 3 pack so I doubt one of three was the only good one.
I tried a second batch but it didn’t rise either. I’m putting this in a stainless bowl on the bottom shelf the first time but moved it to middle shelf for the second batch but it didn’t make a difference.
I mixed this in my KA to the time’s Jacob put forth but I don’t have a clue what I’m doing wrong.
In either case, the crust and flavor are coming out wonderful but I feel way too dense given I’m not getting that initial first good rise.
From something as simple as flour, water, salt and yeast, it’s quite the challenge. Back to the drawing board.
There are many factors in making bread but if you mix the yeast, flour, water & salt and let it rise in the fridge, it could take anywhere from 3 hours to 3 days! Patience is a virtue in cooking and especially in baking. Just let it alone until it rises, however long that takes. The advantage is: the longer it takes to rise, the more flavor there is. Keep an eye on it, you don’t want it to over-rise.
Try letting the bread ferment at room temperature for about 2-3 hours. If the room temp is about 68F or above, it should double in size. At that point you should be able to form, proof and bake as usual. You can also retard the bread in the fridge overnight after it is formed.
Like Wisconsin Limey said, the longer it takes the more character the bread will have, but there’s nothing wrong with fermenting at room temp for 2-3 hours and then proceeding.
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Jacob,
Are you using 16″ baguette molds in the video? I’ve done this twice now and it seems that my baguettes are not as fat as they should be. I’m wondering if I am making the loaves too long.
Also, my loaves look pretty uniform until I put them on the baguette mold after the final rest. Then then look like they came out of a play-dough machine ran by a monkey. Can I put my bread on the baguette mold to do the pre-shape proof as well as the final proof?
Lastly, is there any way to (practically) practice slashing the baguette loaf? I had it all planned in my head how it should look — but my single edge razor sort of dragged through the loaf instead of slashing it. Results poor. 20 hours of prep time to lead up to the slash and I blow it!
Absolutely great video!!! Thanks chef!
@ Homecook,
I’m using a 14″ baguette mold. If your baguettes aren’t as fat as you would like, let them proof longer in the baguette mold. That should do the trick. You can also increase the steaming time a little bit, but I think a longer proof is what you’re looking for (maybe your kitchen is a little cold now that its winter time).
@ Otto,
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Hi Jacob,
Thanks for the video!
Is it ok to half the recipe and only make 2 at a time? I am single, so more than two will likely go stale before I can use them and I can only use so many bread crumbs.
Ric
Or, can I store the dough for a couple – three days?
Very good video !! I did this without a mold and substituted a small amount of whole wheat flour. It came out very good the shape wasn’t that nice. It is hard to find these baguette molds.
@ Ric,
Bread freezes great. Wrap it tightly in foil and freeze. When ready to eat, throw in a 350 degree oven for about 15 minutes or so (times and temps will vary). You can then remove the foil, and place back in the oven to crisp up the crust.
@Troy,
The crust and crumb are much more important then the shape. I’ve had a couple people complain that these molds are hard to find. My local kitchen store stalks them so I never ran into this problem. I’m going to do some research and see if I can find a good online resource.
Searching the web for Baguette Pans is more productive than baguette molds. {mold is a vague term}. An Amazon search produces 44 results for Baguette Pan(s) See: http://tinyurl.com/yzhr3xo
I got mine at Sir La Table. I paid about 10$ too much for it but had a gift card to spend.
Thanks Jacob. I am also Maveric2009 on Twitter, so thank you for the answer about the bagguette pans as well. The pans you suggested, see below, are 15″, but I got them anyway. However, even though the price is $9.99, there was a whopping $10+ shipping charge on them. I contacted the vendor and got them from its site (www.bakedeco.com) for $7.95, but the cheapest shipping was still $9+. I e-mailed and they are going to ship them via USPS to me for $5.98.
Man, I must be motivated to make these baguettes.
@Homecook, the search you refer to still doesn’t result in the 14″ dual furrow pans. I just can’t find them anywhere, but I think the 15″ ones are close.
http://www.amazon.com/Baguette-Perforated-Non-Stick-Aluminum-furrows/dp/B0015QPYQ8/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&s=home-garden&qid=1262813666&sr=8-5
15″ Pans are fine. As long as they fit into a hotel pan you’re golden. Thanks for the link and the info on the pans.
@Ric,
Ah, I didn’t read closely enough to see you were looking for 14″ pans. I have a 16″ pan for 3 loaves and it fits into a 2″ hotel pan just fine. 9$ is pretty cheap, I think I paid about 30$ at SLT.
Good luck and have fun~
Thanks Ric and HomeCook for the links and suggestions! Bottom line, as long as your baguette pan/mold fits into a hotel pan, all is good. A standard hotel pan measures a little more than 20″ X 12″. As long as you find a baguette pan that will fit into these dimensions, this technique will work for you.
Let me know how it turns out!
Jacob to Troy: The crust and crumb are much more important then the shape. I’ve had a couple people complain that these molds are hard to find. My local kitchen store stalks them so I never ran into this problem. I’m going to do some research and see if I can find a good online resource.
Starkman: Stalks, eh! “Sloooowly I crept, foot by foot, inch by inch, when suddenly, the mold saw me and gasped, “Ruuuuun!” ”
Ha!
Starkman
I have a question on browning. My crust is turning out awesome and crispy however the loaf looks really pale. Is there something I can do to increase browning?
Thanks
Greg
Well… I tried to make the baguettes yesterday and started them Saturday night. On Sunday morning, the dough ball had not raised. The yeast was fresh and doesn’t expire until 2011.
They never rose after wards through all the steps.
They came out dense but had great flavor and beautiful crunchy crust.
I don’t know what I could have done differently.
@greg,
Maybe you should just keep in in the oven a bit longer? Did you happen to take the temp of the bread when you pulled it out? It should have been between 200-210F. Is it possible your oven temp isn’t what you think it is? You might want to get a separate oven thermometer to check the accuracy of your oven.
@spinblue,
Did you use active dry yeast or instant yeast? If using active dry yeast, sometimes you have to wake them up by blooming the yeast in warm (not hot) water.
Also, if the ambient temperature is low in your home (below 70F), the bread might not show much initial rise — but it should have provided some spring. If the bread did spring but was dense it may have been under proofed before you put it in the oven. This is consistent with what you described in terms of not raising.
If this happens again, you can try this — turn your oven on for 1 minute (temperature doesn’t matter) then shut it off and put your bread in there during the bulk fermentation. The slightly elevated temp of your oven’s box should prove to be a favorable environment to give your bread a jump start on rising. Alternatively, you can continue to just let it rise until it gets to the proper stage — maybe it just takes a bit longer to rise because of the room temp?
Surprisingly, I had the same yeast Jacob mentioned, Red Star Active Dry, expires Feb. 2011. I’ve never made bread where I didn’t bloom the yeast first, not that I’ve made a lot of bread. I’ve never put dough in the refrigerator to rest over night and that’s where I didn’t get any rise from the dough. So the house temp would be immaterial I would think.
@ Greg,
Like HomeCook said, try baking it for a little longer. Also, raise your oven temperature just a bit during the second half of baking, right after you take the foil off. This should do the trick.
@ Spinblue,
If you leave it in your fridge for 12 hours it should rise just as shown in the video. If it doesn’t rise, then its most likely a yeast issue. Next time, let the bread sit out at room temperature for an hour before putting in the fridge. If you don’t see any activity, you probably just got a bad batch of yeast. It’s very rare, but it will happen occasionally.
Give it another shot and let me know how it turns out.
Well… the yeast doesn’t appear to have been bad. I made a different bread to test it and it rose. I’m using the little 7g 3 pack so I doubt one of three was the only good one.
Back to the drawing board.
I tried a second batch but it didn’t rise either. I’m putting this in a stainless bowl on the bottom shelf the first time but moved it to middle shelf for the second batch but it didn’t make a difference.
I mixed this in my KA to the time’s Jacob put forth but I don’t have a clue what I’m doing wrong.
In either case, the crust and flavor are coming out wonderful but I feel way too dense given I’m not getting that initial first good rise.
From something as simple as flour, water, salt and yeast, it’s quite the challenge.
@ SPINBLUE
There are many factors in making bread but if you mix the yeast, flour, water & salt and let it rise in the fridge, it could take anywhere from 3 hours to 3 days! Patience is a virtue in cooking and especially in baking. Just let it alone until it rises, however long that takes. The advantage is: the longer it takes to rise, the more flavor there is. Keep an eye on it, you don’t want it to over-rise.
@ Spinblue,
Try letting the bread ferment at room temperature for about 2-3 hours. If the room temp is about 68F or above, it should double in size. At that point you should be able to form, proof and bake as usual. You can also retard the bread in the fridge overnight after it is formed.
Like Wisconsin Limey said, the longer it takes the more character the bread will have, but there’s nothing wrong with fermenting at room temp for 2-3 hours and then proceeding.
Try this and let me know how it turns out.
well I might have cheated but 15 gm of sugar seemed to fix the browning perfect loaf
thanks for all the tips
@ Greg,
Its not cheating if you end up with a great product that your happy with! Thanks for posting the tip!
Jacob,
Thanks so much for teaching us earthlings a thing or two about cooking. Thanks for the baguette inspiration.